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:: ScummVM releases are not betas, however, period. Moreover, if you think our testing is lacking, then please help us come up with ways to improve it. But showing a console will fix nothing. --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 09:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | :: ScummVM releases are not betas, however, period. Moreover, if you think our testing is lacking, then please help us come up with ways to improve it. But showing a console will fix nothing. --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 09:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
::: I still class ScummVM as beta, because our release testing only seems to get worse with each release. The last major release focused testing only on certain games, and the majority of games passed, without any regression testing at all. More thorough release testing, simply takes more time, and there are no easy solutions. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]] 13:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | ::: I still class ScummVM as beta, because our release testing only seems to get worse with each release. The last major release focused testing only on certain games, and the majority of games passed, without any regression testing at all. More thorough release testing, simply takes more time, and there are no easy solutions. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]] 13:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::: You are welcome to class ScummVM as alpha, beta, gamma or any other greek letter you like, and you can even class it a banana, but this is really totally irrelevant. ScummVM is *not* a beta, period. Feel free to try to convince the rest of the team to imitate Google and slap a big "Beta" badge over everything, but right now, this is not the case. --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 21:03, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
: I don't see how an extra console window appearing in the background, suddenly confuses users either. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]] 23:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC) | : I don't see how an extra console window appearing in the background, suddenly confuses users either. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]] 23:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
:: Well, you are hardly a regular user, and devs often don't see things as problematic that "normal" users do. But you are right in so far as that we are essentially uttering believes here. So, we should run a poll among our users to determine what they think about the console window, and what they would prefer. --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 09:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | :: Well, you are hardly a regular user, and devs often don't see things as problematic that "normal" users do. But you are right in so far as that we are essentially uttering believes here. So, we should run a poll among our users to determine what they think about the console window, and what they would prefer. --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 09:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
==== Many users requested this over the years ==== | ==== Many users requested this over the years ==== | ||
: My guess in fact is that many more want this than have reported it, simply because the threshold to reporting this nuisance is relatively high. --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 15:24, 25 October 2010 (UTC) | : My guess in fact is that many more want this than have reported it, simply because the threshold to reporting this nuisance is relatively high. --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 15:24, 25 October 2010 (UTC) | ||