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Moved some issues out of pros - they're more like observations. Also, updated my comments on an issue
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(Moved some issues out of pros - they're more like observations. Also, updated my comments on an issue)
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a) a decision can be reached on this which all interested developers can be satisfied with.<br>
a) a decision can be reached on this which all interested developers can be satisfied with.<br>
b) the reasons and arguments for the decision can be minuted, such that the perennial argument can be avoided in the future, unless the reasons given here can be shown to have evolved.
b) the reasons and arguments for the decision can be minuted, such that the perennial argument can be avoided in the future, unless the reasons given here can be shown to have evolved.
Log files can be used instead of the console window, which can be erased every time ScummVM starts. Ideally, we could have a "Submit" button which the user can click on to submit unknown checksums.


== Pros (Arguments For Hiding The Console Window) ==
== Pros (Arguments For Hiding The Console Window) ==
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* Most Windows applications do not display a console window.
* Most Windows applications do not display a console window.
* Unknown games can be reported with a nice popup GUI window, and the game checksums in question can be exported to a file, which the user can copy and paste to a bug report
* Unknown games can be reported with a nice popup GUI window, and the game checksums in question can be exported to a file, which the user can copy and paste to a bug report
* Ideally, we could have a "Submit" button which the user can click on to submit unknown checksums
* Log files can be used instead of the console window, which can be erased every time ScummVM starts
* Sometimes, when ScummVM crashes unexpectedly, the program exits completely, and the user loses the error in question. This doesn't happen with a log file.
* Sometimes, when ScummVM crashes unexpectedly, the program exits completely, and the user loses the error in question. This doesn't happen with a log file.
* Users need to restart ScummVM, to get more feedback, when bugs or issues occur and they haven't copied/pasted the relevant information from the console, and might not even be able to reproduce the bug/issue.
* Users need to restart ScummVM, to get more feedback, when bugs or issues occur and they haven't copied/pasted the relevant information from the console, and might not even be able to reproduce the bug/issue.
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** Multiple logs would lead to more confusion, about which file to submit, if that method was used.
** Multiple logs would lead to more confusion, about which file to submit, if that method was used.
* If a toggle is added for opening/closing the console window (showing all previous output), users will be dumped back to the desktop. And jumping back into ScummVM can result in further issues, of screen going out of sync or crash, with poor display drivers.
* If a toggle is added for opening/closing the console window (showing all previous output), users will be dumped back to the desktop. And jumping back into ScummVM can result in further issues, of screen going out of sync or crash, with poor display drivers.
** '''I don't understand what this issue is about - Md5'''
** '''Hiding a window is a standard procedure in Windows. If a user has such a badly broken graphics driver, then this will be the least of his problems, nothing will work properly - Md5'''
* The current option is inconsistent, when starting directly (no console), compared to starting via a command prompt (console used, and prompt not returned). The standard behavior of GUI only programs, is to return the prompt straight away, if started by a command prompt.  
* The current option is inconsistent, when starting directly (no console), compared to starting via a command prompt (console used, and prompt not returned). The standard behavior of GUI only programs, is to return the prompt straight away, if started by a command prompt.  
** ''' This already happens with the currently submitted patch by m_kiewitz - Md5'''
** ''' This already happens with the currently submitted patch by m_kiewitz - Md5'''
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