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/* The current option is inconsistent, when starting directly (no console), compared to starting via a command prompt (console used, and prompt not returned). The standard behavior of GUI only programs, is to return the prompt straight away, if start
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::: My comment is based on experiences with good UI design that hold valid on all desktop platforms; *and* is based on experience with Windows. For a polished Windows GUI program, it is very uncommon to show a console dialog. Please don't repeat the "we are beta level" argument, we are not in beta. And I dare say that even among beta programs on Windows, showing a console is not that common (though I must admit that I rarely run beta software on Windows; but e.g. Chrome and Firefox betas don't do that). --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 09:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | ::: My comment is based on experiences with good UI design that hold valid on all desktop platforms; *and* is based on experience with Windows. For a polished Windows GUI program, it is very uncommon to show a console dialog. Please don't repeat the "we are beta level" argument, we are not in beta. And I dare say that even among beta programs on Windows, showing a console is not that common (though I must admit that I rarely run beta software on Windows; but e.g. Chrome and Firefox betas don't do that). --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 09:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::: This comment seems under the incorrect section, we are talking about the inconsistent behavior of the current method (disabled by default) used in ScummVM, to disable the console. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]] 13:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | :::: This comment seems under the incorrect section, we are talking about the inconsistent behavior of the current method (disabled by default) used in ScummVM, to disable the console. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]] 13:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::: We can also switch ScummVM to windowed app type and it won't wait *BUT* actually ScummVM *is* also a charmode app. In the windowed app case, "scummvm -?" won't work anymore and I don't think that this | ::::: We can also switch ScummVM to windowed app type and it won't wait *BUT* actually ScummVM *is* also a charmode app. In the windowed app case, "scummvm -?" won't work anymore and I don't think that this would be desired behaviour. So the current new way of hiding the console in case, we are started directly makes actual sense. --[[User:M kiewitz|M kiewitz]] 18:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Why is this pro/con hiding only? There is also the possibility of just showing the console, when its actually needed (error in game or md5 for unknown game etc.) - m_kiewitz | :Why is this pro/con hiding only? There is also the possibility of just showing the console, when its actually needed (error in game or md5 for unknown game etc.) --[[User::m_kiewitz|m_kiewitz]] | ||
:: I am not completely sure at what your comment is directed. Please clarify :) --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 15:56, 25 October 2010 (UTC) | :: I am not completely sure at what your comment is directed. Please clarify :) --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 15:56, 25 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
::: We currently hide the console right at the start. We could theoretically show it again, when the user tries to add an unknown game. This would make it possible to copy the md5 out of the window. Of course it's not common behaviour, but it would solve some of our hiding problems --[[User:m_kiewitz|m_kiewitz]] 18:07, 25 October 2010 (UTC) | ::: We currently hide the console right at the start. We could theoretically show it again, when the user tries to add an unknown game. This would make it possible to copy the md5 out of the window. Of course it's not common behaviour, but it would solve some of our hiding problems --[[User:m_kiewitz|m_kiewitz]] 18:07, 25 October 2010 (UTC) | ||