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Sure thing, adding it to the template sounds like a good idea indeed :) --[[User:Md5|Md5]] 23:39, 3 April 2007 (CEST)
Sure thing, adding it to the template sounds like a good idea indeed :) --[[User:Md5|Md5]] 23:39, 3 April 2007 (CEST)
Come to think of it, I had proposed that idea in the GameDescription template discussion page but never got a reply... --[[User:Md5|Md5]] 23:42, 3 April 2007 (CEST)
:I'm not sure, but is there be a way to form the link using the page name? Then, you wouldn't have to add it to each game. -[[User:Clone2727|Clone2727]] 15:37, 4 April 2007 (CEST)
::Good idea :) Data file bit is automatically computed now from the page name. However, some game titles in the data files page have to be renamed, because they're different from the game pages themselves --[[User:Md5|Md5]] 16:45, 4 April 2007 (CEST)
:::Major changes should be discussed, and I had to revert the recent changes. The links (for required data files) shouldn't be auto generated via the template, since they aren't required by all game pages. We only list the required data files for games, which are actually supported by ScummVM. Other disadvantages are the place holders required, and the fact the correct title names couldn't be used. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]]
:::: Apologies, I should have discussed this before commiting. We could hide the data files bit for the games which are not supported by setting a flag for them (or just leaving it there, it'll link to the Datafiles page only). In any case, the renaming required was not that drastic (e.g. "Dig, The" to "The Dig"). Finally, the placeholders themselves are not required, since if a placeholder doesn't exist, the auto-generated link merely points to the Datafiles page. So, should the auto-generated link be removed from the template, or left there as-is? --[[User:Md5|Md5]] 12:50, 5 April 2007 (CEST)
:::::There is probably a way to do it using those pesky if statements. Maybe if we set up a category for supported/non-supported games and then "if" it is supported and then we check "if" the title begins with "The" to move it to the end. Just a suggestion. I'm not even sure this is possible. I would have to learn more about the if statements to do this. -[[User:Clone2727|Clone2727]] 13:07, 5 April 2007 (CEST)
:::::: Well, a category with supported/non-supported games would be cool, to make things more organized. Another idea is to check if the "Support" bit is set. If it's not, then we could automatically set it to "Not supported" or something, and hide the datafiles link. In any case, the automatic creation of certain things is certainly useful, and it'll be good if some information could be filled in automatically (e.g. if the publisher is empty, set it to be equal to the developer) --[[User:Md5|Md5]] 13:16, 5 April 2007 (CEST)


Come to think of it, I had proposed that idea in the GameDescription template discussion page but never got a reply... --[[User:Md5|Md5]] 23:42, 3 April 2007 (CEST)
:::::: There is already an 'Unsupported Games' category on the wiki, so might as well add an 'Supported Games' category too. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]]
 
::::: Remove the auto-generated links (for required data files) from the template, a link shouldn't be displayed at all, for games which currently don't have details available or for games which aren't supported. The use of templates is good for having a standard layout in specific areas of the wiki, but shouldn't be used for auto-generating the actual information itself. Since this wiki is an information resource, auto-generating the information, makes it much easier for errors to be displayed. It would be simpler to add links (for required data files) manually, if you still want to go ahead with adding links on each game's page. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]]
 
== Humongous Entertainment games ==
 
I think it is an overkill to enlist each game. Especially because those lists are not correct. I.e. many games were ported to more than one version of SPUTM engine, and thus, they have different list of files. I would do it this way: add something like "Generic HE game" and enlist there *.HE?, *.(a), .(b). And then for several games like mustard add additional entry which enlists special resources and/or directories. --[[User:Sev|Sev]] 11:36, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
 
:Adding a 'Generic HE game' entry or even a 'Games from Humongous Entertainment' entry, isn't quite as clear to all users, as using the full game title. The other main issue is many HE games and HE games demos were included in a single directly, so it could be more confusing for users if we don't provide the full filenames too. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]] 02:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 
== Static data files ==
 
Currently the static data files for BASS, Queen, Lure link to engine-data/trunk, just kyra.dat links to the 0-10-0 release tag. I am not really sure if we should just give the link to the current release file or to the current SVN file. So I want to ask if we should think of adding two links here, one for Release and one for SVN? Or at least if we should tell the user that he probably needs different files for Release and SVN version and tells him where to look for them (Engine pages?). --[[User:LordHoto|LordHoto]] 23:58, 3 September 2007 (CEST)
:Yeah, I would add both, one for Release and one for current SVN -[[User:Clone2727|Clone2727]] 02:27, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 
== Files ==
I think it would be a good idea to add in some cases the total number of files needed to play a game with ScummVM (e.g. The Feeble Files). So users could check directly if they've copied all necessary files to the folder. [[User:march|march]] 18:46, 12 October 2009
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