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/* If a toggle is added for opening/closing the console window (showing all previous output), users will be dumped back to the desktop. And jumping back into ScummVM can result in further issues, of screen going out of sync or crash, with poor displa
(/* If a toggle is added for opening/closing the console window (showing all previous output), users will be dumped back to the desktop. And jumping back into ScummVM can result in further issues, of screen going out of sync or crash, with poor displa)
(/* If a toggle is added for opening/closing the console window (showing all previous output), users will be dumped back to the desktop. And jumping back into ScummVM can result in further issues, of screen going out of sync or crash, with poor displa)
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::: Huh? Where and when do we force the user to toggle back to window mode? As I understand it, the console is *never* visible in fullscreen mode, so to see, the user is already now forced to toggle back to window mode manually. So, maybe it is a kludge (it is indeed one, because we force the user to look at something that only devs should ever have to look at) but then it is a kludge that is already now present, isn't it? --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 09:22, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
::: Huh? Where and when do we force the user to toggle back to window mode? As I understand it, the console is *never* visible in fullscreen mode, so to see, the user is already now forced to toggle back to window mode manually. So, maybe it is a kludge (it is indeed one, because we force the user to look at something that only devs should ever have to look at) but then it is a kludge that is already now present, isn't it? --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 09:22, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:::: Yes, the users would have to toggle back to window mode either way, if in fullscreen mode. But the point that opening a console option on demand is more risky stands. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]] 13:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:::: Yes, the users would have to toggle back to window mode either way, if in fullscreen mode. But the point that opening a console option on demand is more risky stands. [[User:Kirben|Kirben]] 13:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
::::: No, it does not stand from my point of view. I explained, in particular, that the hotkey for toggling the console could easily be implement in a way that would *not* forcefully exit fullscreen mode. So far I countered every point your raised here in detail, and you have still to reply to that. From my point of view this "con" argument has been effectively refuted. --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 20:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
::::: No, it does not stand from my point of view. I explained, in particular, that the hotkey for toggling the console could easily be implement in a way that would *not* forcefully exit fullscreen mode. So far I countered every point your raised here in detail, and you have still to reply to that. From my point of view this "con" argument has been effectively refuted, unless you can either explain why my approach would not work, or bring up further issues. --[[User:Fingolfin|Fingolfin]] 20:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


==== The current option is inconsistent, when starting directly (no console), compared to starting via a command prompt (console used, and prompt not returned). The standard behavior of GUI only programs, is to return the prompt straight away, if started by a command prompt. ====
==== The current option is inconsistent, when starting directly (no console), compared to starting via a command prompt (console used, and prompt not returned). The standard behavior of GUI only programs, is to return the prompt straight away, if started by a command prompt. ====
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